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		<title>Prayer &#8211; too marvelous for words?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Herbert&#8217;s poem, Prayer (I) is a dense cascade of metaphors, ending in the simple phrase, &#8220;something understood.&#8221; Here is the poem, followed by helpful commentary by an Australian theologian and blogger, Ben Myers.   Prayer the church&#8217;s banquet, angel&#8217;s age,          God&#8217;s breath in man returning to his birth,          The soul in paraphrase, heart in pilgrimage, [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1859&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>George Herbert&#8217;s poem, Prayer (I)</strong> is a dense cascade of metaphors, ending in the simple phrase, &#8220;something understood.&#8221; Here is the poem, followed by helpful commentary by an Australian theologian and blogger, <a href="http://www.faith-theology.com/2010/07/george-herbert-prayer-language-silence.html">Ben Myers</a>.<span style="font-size:xx-small;">  </span></p>
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<div>Prayer the church&#8217;s banquet, angel&#8217;s age,</div>
<div>         God&#8217;s breath in man returning to his birth,</div>
<div>         The soul in paraphrase, heart in pilgrimage,</div>
<div>The Christian plummet sounding heav&#8217;n and earth</div>
<div>Engine against th&#8217; Almighty, sinner&#8217;s tow&#8217;r,</div>
<div>         Reversed thunder, Christ-side-piercing spear,</div>
<div>         The six-days world transposing in an hour,</div>
<div>A kind of tune, which all things hear and fear;</div>
<div>Softness, and peace, and joy, and love, and bliss,</div>
<div>         Exalted manna, gladness of the best,</div>
<div>         Heaven in ordinary, man well drest,</div>
<div>The milky way, the bird of Paradise,</div>
<div>         Church-bells beyond the stars heard, the soul&#8217;s blood,</div>
<div>         The land of spices; something understood.</div>
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<p>The whole poem comes rushing out as a single breathless exhilarating sentence, piling image upon image in a kind of rhapsodic abandon. The images are startling, contradictory, incapable of conceptual reduction. Prayer is as gentle as breath or the fragrance of spices, yet it is also a violent ‘engine against th’ Almightie’, a battering ram with which the Christian lays siege against God. It is as soothing as ‘a kinde of tune’, yet it’s a tune that strikes ‘fear’ into the heart of all creation. It is exotic, strange, inexplicable – the Milky Way, the bird of paradise, the land of spices – yet also as homely and familiar as dressing in one’s Sunday best. Yes, prayer is heaven, but it is ‘heaven in ordinarie’. It maps out the contours of the inner self – ‘the soul in paraphrase’, ‘the souls bloud’ – but also reaches ‘beyond the stars’. It’s like a ship’s sounding line, not dropped into the sea but cast up into the sky, a ‘plummet sounding heav’n’. Similarly, it is ‘reversed thunder’: Jove’s thunder is turned back on himself, a bolt shooting up from earth to heaven.</p>
<p>These dizzying spatial images stretch the imagination beyond its furthest limits. The stage on which prayer takes place is infinitely vast. Yet juxtaposed with this immensity is the image of prayer as ‘the soul in paraphrase’, a tiny abridgement of all the depths and complexities of a human story. Indeed prayer is an hour-long abridgement of the whole ‘six daies world’ – an image that at once evokes the huge dimensions of prayer and its minute scale. It is a gigantic mystery that sounds the most profound depths, yet so small you can fit it in your pocket&#8230;</p>
<p>In the final stanza, all the senses are engaged. Prayer is soft and supple to touch; it tastes like manna; it is the vision of a star-filled sky; it smells like the land of spices; it sounds like the distant peal of bells (either earth’s bells heard in heaven, or heavenly bells heard on earth: Herbert is tantalisingly ambiguous). This explosion of sensual imagery doesn’t serve conceptual clarity. What would church bells sound like if they echoed from another galaxy? What does an exotic country smell like, a country you’ve never visited? Come to think of it, what exactly does heavenly manna taste like? If these images teach us something about prayer, it is primarily by destabilising our understanding, driving us to the brink of an unspeakable mystery.</p>
<p>And so the whole great cascade of imagery is finally resolved in just two words, ‘something understood’&#8230; In Herbert’s poem one anticipates a resolution, but it never seems to arrive – until it suddenly interrupts the final line in a way that is startling, abrupt, unexpected. Just as prayer abridges all history into an hour, so the whole poem is condensed into these closing words. <strong>What is prayer? It is ‘something understood’.</strong> These are the only words in the poem that are not wrapped up in some imagery: here there is neither concept nor imagery, only a quiet understanding.</p>
<p>The real purpose of all the conflicting images was simply to clear this space – not, in fact, a space for understanding (as though the poem were trying to ‘explain’ prayer), but a space for prayer itself. As talk-about-prayer passes over into praying, something is understood that language can never capture. In fourteen lines we have plumbed heaven and earth, feasted and made war, spanned all the farthest reaches of time and space. But now – as so often in Herbert – we find ourselves kneeling alone in the dusky light of a little country church, listening softly to that profound yet homely silence. <strong>Here at last, where understanding ceases, prayer is understood.</strong></p>
<p>Certainly, then, there is something akin to an apophatic moment. The moment of silent understanding, however, occurs not in opposition to the clumsy limitation of language, but <i>within</i> it. It is Herbert’s first thirteen-and-a-half lines that create the experience of the poem’s close. It’s not as though there were first of all a sheer wordless experience of prayer, which is subsequently described in words. Rather the poetic language itself creates the conditions for an experience of silence. Wordless prayer is a possibility <i>within</i> language. Contemplative silence is the calm eye at the centre of the roiling storm of language.</p>
<p>To put it another way, Herbert’s poem is not about the poverty of human language, but about the inexhaustible riches of prayer. <strong>Prayer is too much – too much for language, too much even for poetry.</strong> More than anywhere else in Herbert’s poetry, we catch a glimpse here of language straining against its own possibilities – not as one struggles against a straitjacket, but as a horse champs at the bit before a race, straining because there is <i>too much</i> to say. Silence is not the phenomenon that ensues when language reaches its limit, much less some primordial pre-linguistic abyss from which language subsequently emerges. In the company of a close friend, I sometimes find myself reduced to silence. Not because the relationship is wordless (nothing is more verbose than friendship), but because in friendship one can never say enough; the real goal of friendship is to <i>talk your way into</i> silence. This is just what Herbert portrays in so many of his poetic conversations with God. One can never say enough to God. And so, in its fullness, language ripens into silence. Language is outrun by its own resources, it spills over into the baffled joy of contemplation.</p>
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		<title>Will we Suffer Well?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I preached on  Suffering Well last Sunday.  I later heard that upon hearing my sermon theme, my daughter whispered in my wife&#8217;s ear, &#8220;Wow, &#8216;Suffering Well&#8216; &#8211; -  Happy Mother&#8217;s Day!&#8221; Suffering is indeed part of the joy of Christian Discipleship. It is, as Luther said, a way we grow &#8211; along with the Scriptures and [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1852&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<div>Suffering is indeed part of the joy of Christian Discipleship. It is, as Luther said, a way we grow &#8211; along with the Scriptures and Prayer. One essential for that growth to take place, is saying to the Lord with an open heart:</div>
<div>   &#8221;What do you have for me in this (present suffering?)&#8221;</div>
<div>   &#8221;Help me to see not only the END of my suffering, but the &#8216;END&#8217; for which this  suffering may be USED in my life.</div>
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<div>Simone Weil wrote, “The extreme greatness of Christianity lies in the fact that it does not seek a supernatural remedy for suffering, but a supernatural use for it.” (<em>Gravity and Grace</em>)</div>
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<div>Scott Cairns, closes his small and beautiful book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-End-Suffering-Finding-Purpose/dp/1557255636/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1368759228&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=the+end+of+suffering"><em>The End of Suffering: Finding Purpose in Pain</em></a>, with this quote and a poignant benediction:</div>
<div style="text-align:left;"><strong>&#8220;May our afflictions be few, but may we learn not to squander them.&#8221;</strong></div>
<h5></h5>
<h5>Q &#8211; Are you and I ready to ask <em>what God has for us</em> in times of trouble and suffering?</h5>
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		<title>&#8216;Our hearts are restless&#8230;&#8217; and that can be good!</title>
		<link>http://lylemook.com/2013/05/13/our-hearts-are-restless-and-that-can-be-good/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 14:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Herbert wrote a wonderful poem reminiscent of Augustine&#8217;s words, &#8220;You have made us for Yourself, and our hearts are restless, until they find their rest in You.&#8221; Herbert&#8217;s poem goes to a deeper place&#8230; of loving God for Himself and not for His great blessings! The Pulley   When God at first made man, [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1839&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Herbert wrote a wonderful poem reminiscent of Augustine&#8217;s words, &#8220;You have made us for Yourself, and our hearts are restless, until they find their rest in You.&#8221;</p>
<p>Herbert&#8217;s poem goes to a deeper place&#8230;<br />
of loving God for Himself and not for His great blessings!</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>The Pulley</strong></em></p>
<div>  When God at first made man,</div>
<div>Having a glass of blessings standing by,</div>
<div>“Let us,” said he, “pour on him all we can.</div>
<div>Let the world’s riches, which dispersèd lie,</div>
<div>   Contract into a span.”</div>
<div>___</div>
<div>   So strength first made a way;</div>
<div>Then beauty flowed, then wisdom, honour, pleasure.</div>
<div>When almost all was out, God made a stay,</div>
<div>Perceiving that, alone of all his treasure,</div>
<div><em>   Rest,</em> in the bottom lay.</div>
<div>___</div>
<div>   “For if I should,” said he,</div>
<div>“Bestow this jewel also on my creature,</div>
<div>He would adore my gifts instead of me,</div>
<div>And rest in Nature, not the God of Nature;</div>
<div>   So both should losers be.</div>
<div>___</div>
<div>   “Yet let him keep the rest,</div>
<div>But keep them with repining restlessness;</div>
<div>Let him be rich and weary, that at least,</div>
<div>If goodness lead him not, yet weariness</div>
<div>   May toss him to my breast.”</div>
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<h4><strong>Q &#8211; Do you ever find yourself adoring God&#8217;s gifts instead of God?</strong></h4>
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		<title>The Spiritual Homelessness of Young Adults</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 10:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much has been written about the so called &#8220;Nones&#8221; &#8211; the seemingly growing number of those in America marking &#8220;none&#8221; as to their religious affiliation. An article from David Kinnaman is the Barna Research organization&#8217;s more detailed take on the spiritual journeys of young adults, or millennials,  and how older Christian leaders can best &#8216;mentor&#8217; [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1826&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1830" alt="spirtually-homeless" src="http://lylemook.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/spirtually-homeless.jpg?w=181&#038;h=300" width="181" height="300" />Much has been written about the so called &#8220;Nones&#8221; &#8211; the seemingly growing number of those in America marking &#8220;none&#8221; as to their religious affiliation.</p>
<p>An article from David Kinnaman is the Barna Research organization&#8217;s more detailed take on the spiritual journeys of young adults, or <strong>millennials, </strong> and how older Christian leaders can best &#8216;mentor&#8217; them and learn from them. The study is called: <a href="http://www.barna.org/teens-next-gen-articles/621-three-spiritual-journeys-of-millennials"><em><strong>Three Spiritual Journeys of Millennials.  </strong></em><strong>Read it here</strong>.</a></p>
<p><strong>Q &#8211; <em>If you are in the 18-30 age &#8211; do you see similar trends in yourself and others?</em></strong></p>
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		<title>A Sonnet for &#8216;Ascension Day&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 20:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today marks the Ascension of Christ in the Western Church &#8211; 40 days after Jesus&#8217; resurrection. Why is it so vital (and yet often neglected?)  Read this post: &#8220;Why the Ascension Matters To Our Mission.&#8221; I&#8217;d like to share a poem &#8211; a  sonnet &#8211; that draws out the profound beauty and power of Christ&#8217;s [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1828&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1835" alt="7thSinaiAscension300" src="http://lylemook.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/7thsinaiascension300.jpg?w=205&#038;h=300" width="205" height="300" />Today marks the Ascension of Christ in the Western Church &#8211; 40 days after Jesus&#8217; resurrection. Why is it so vital (and yet often neglected?)  Read this post: <a href="http://lylemook.com/2012/05/15/why-the-ascension-matters-for-our-mission/"><strong>&#8220;Why the Ascension Matters To Our Mission.&#8221;</strong></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to share a poem &#8211; a  sonnet &#8211; that draws out the profound beauty and power of Christ&#8217;s Ascension! Read it out loud &#8211; more than once!</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Ascension Day</strong></em>, by Malcolm Guite</p>
<p>We saw his light break through the cloud of glory<br />
Whilst we were rooted still in time and place,<br />
As earth became part of heaven&#8217;s story<br />
And heaven opened to his human face.<br />
We saw him go and yet we were not parted,<br />
He took us with him to the heart of things,<br />
The heart that broke for all the broken-hearted<br />
Is whole and heaven-centered now, and sings;<br />
Sings in the strength that rises out of weakness,<br />
Sings through the clouds that veil him from our sight,<br />
Whilst we ourselves become his clouds of witness<br />
And sing the waning darkness into light;<br />
His light in us, and ours in him concealed,<br />
Which all creation waits to see revealed.</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Sounding-Seasons-Malcolm-Guite/dp/1848252749/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1368129839&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=sounding+the+seasons"><em>Sounding the Seasons</em></a>, p.45</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Biblical Submission in Cultural Context</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 02:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our study of 1 Peter, we&#8217;re doing a mini-series called YOLO &#8211; or &#8211; What will you do with the rest of your life? We began with the often misunderstood passage in 3:1-7. It can sound archaic and out of touch to modern ears, but when understood in context &#8211; it is revolutionary, then [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1821&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1822" alt="yolo2" src="http://lylemook.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/yolo2.png?w=300&#038;h=225" width="300" height="225" />In our study of 1 Peter, we&#8217;re doing a mini-series called <em><a href="http://www.christchurchec.org/sermon-series/yolo-what-will-you-do-rest-your-life-0">YOLO &#8211; or &#8211; What will you do with the rest of your life?</a></em> We began with the often misunderstood passage in 3:1-7. It can sound archaic and out of touch to modern ears, but when understood in context &#8211; it is revolutionary, then and now!  I invite you to compare the Christ Church sermon, <em><strong><a href="http://www.christchurchec.org/sermon/2013/05/05-0">The Cross Shaped Family</a></strong></em>, with this blog post from Rachel Held Evans.  I have recently started following her very thorough and studied blog and came across this post on our text in 1 Peter and related passages. It tracks perfectly with my own study and will give you more food for thought.</p>
<p>Here is the link to her post called: <strong><a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/blog/mutuality-household-codes">Submission in Context: Christ and the Greco-Roman Household Codes</a><br />
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<p>Enjoy! Let&#8217;s help the world see true biblical submission and true servant leadership for the gifts that they are.</p>
<p><strong>I&#8217;ll leave you with the question I asked our church community to consider:<br />
<em>Who is the person closest to you that God is calling you to serve sacrificially &#8211; in the way of Jesus &#8216;Cross-shaped love?&#8217;</em></strong></p>
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		<title>More Tough Questions &#8211; A Video Discussion</title>
		<link>http://lylemook.com/2013/04/30/more-tough-questions-a-brief-and-helpful-video/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a sequel to our Tough Questions series, I came across this video of a great discussion between John Ortberg and outgoing Fuller Seminary President, Richard Mouw (author of Uncommon Decency who coined the term we&#8217;ve used often: &#8216;Convictions with Civility.&#8217;)  It was held at Ortberg&#8217;s Menlo Park Presbyterian Church in California. It is a brief, [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1814&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a sequel to our <a href="http://www.christchurchec.org/sermon-series/tough-questions"><em><strong>Tough Questions</strong> </em></a>series, I came across this video of a great discussion between John Ortberg and outgoing Fuller Seminary President, Richard Mouw (author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Decency-Christian-Civility-Uncivil/dp/0830833099/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1367349038&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=uncommon+decency"><em>Uncommon Decency</em></a> who coined the term we&#8217;ve used often: &#8216;Convictions with Civility.&#8217;)  It was held at Ortberg&#8217;s Menlo Park Presbyterian Church in California.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">It is a brief, free-flowing discussion on questions like:</span></strong><br />
&#8220;What does &#8216;Evangelical&#8217; mean?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What is the significance of the Cross of Christ and why is it so central?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Is Mormonism Christian?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Why Should the Bible Be Viewed as Trustworthy?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;How Can We Talk About Human Sexuality in a Biblical and Civil Way?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;How Do We Dialog with Others with Convicted Civility?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;How Do Christians understand and talk about Hell with Others?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;How Do we interpret the Bible in passages that describe violence?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What is God Waiting for Before He Comes Back?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What Do you See around the World Gives You Hope?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align:center;"><strong><a href="http://vimeo.com/61930325">Click Here</a><br />
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		<title>So, Will All Be Saved in the End?</title>
		<link>http://lylemook.com/2013/04/30/so-will-all-be-saved-in-the-end/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A follow-up to the teaching, Will All Be Saved in the End? in our Tough Questions Series.  I had the privilege at North Park University of speaking with Kallistos Ware, elderly Orthodox bishop and scholar from England. I had read his essay called, Dare We Hope for the Salvation of All? (I found it on the [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1810&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A follow-up to the teaching, <strong><a href="http://www.christchurchec.org/sermon/2013/04/28-0"><em>Will All Be Saved in the End?</em></a></strong> in our <em><a href="http://www.christchurchec.org/sermon-series/tough-questions">Tough Questions Series</a>. </em></p>
<p>I had the privilege at North Park University of speaking with Kallistos Ware, elderly Orthodox bishop and scholar from England. I had read his essay called, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;ved=0CDcQFjAB&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fldysinger.stjohnsem.edu%2F%40texts2%2F1980_kal-ware%2FApokat_Inner-Kingdom.doc&amp;ei=cUd_UaXgA8nH0wHd_4Eo&amp;usg=AFQjCNEhiQxdb2aLhZysOoy57ot70s6o7A&amp;sig2=NB3_EiHiBItlGaiAppX08g&amp;bvm=bv.45645796,d.dmQ"><em>Dare We Hope for the Salvation of All?</em> (I found it on the web here.</a>) I asked him about his views. He said that the freedom of the human will as part of being in God&#8217;s image, was for him (as for C. S. Lewis) a decisive point. There must remain, despite God&#8217;s love and the victory and future restoration of all things in Christ, the possibility of choosing to refuse God&#8217;s gift. His article is worth reading to understand how Christians through the centuries have addressed these issues.</p>
<p>Here are some C.S. Lewis&#8217; quotes on this subject that are insightful and provocative.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>To enter hell is to be banished from humanity.  What is cast (or casts itself) into hell is not a man: it is “remains.”To be a complete man, means to have the passions obedient to the will and the will offered to God…hell was not made for men…It is in no sense parallel to heaven. (from The Problem of Pain)</em></p>
<p><em>“There are only two kinds of people in the end: Those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ All that are in Hell, chose it.  Without that self- choice there could be no Hell.  No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it.  Those who seek, find…” The Great Divorce</em></p>
<p><em>In the long run the answer to all those who object to the doctrine of hell, is itself a question: <strong>“What are you asking God to do?”</strong> To wipe out their past sins and, at all costs, to give them a fresh start, smoothing every difficulty and offering every miraculous help? But He has done so, on Calvary. To forgive them?  They will not be forgiven. To leave them alone? Alas, I am afraid that is what He does.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>ONE MORE resource for deeper study that I&#8217;ve appreciated is an important alternative to some western views of heaven and hell that often come more from Dante’s Inferno and Greek mythology than from biblical teaching. It is linked here: <a href="http://aggreen.net/beliefs/heaven_hell.html">Heaven and Hell in the Afterlife According to the Bible</a>, by Peter Chopelas, an Eastern Orthodox writer.  Though the writer sees this understanding as being counter to both Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, I would say that many evangelicals, including myself, increasingly accept the basic premise of this line of study. Certainly Lewis was on this train.</p>
<p><em><strong>What Questions are raised for you by this discussion?</strong></em></p>
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		<title>3 Podcasts that Strengthen My Life as a Leader!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was asked recently for recommendations on podcasts. In this post, I&#8217;ll focus on podcasts that I&#8217;ve found helpful to jumpstart or strengthen my life as a Leader. (In future posts, I&#8217;ll share some favorite podcasts, blogs and apps that I find especially helpful in my spiritual growth and ministry.) 1. This is Your Life, by [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1802&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1803" alt="PODCAST" src="http://lylemook.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/podcast.jpeg?w=580"   />I was asked recently for recommendations on podcasts. In this post, I&#8217;ll focus on podcasts that I&#8217;ve found helpful to jumpstart or strengthen my life as a <strong>Leader</strong>.</p>
<p>(In future posts, I&#8217;ll share some favorite podcasts, blogs and apps that I find especially helpful in my spiritual growth and ministry.)</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://michaelhyatt.com/thisisyourlife"><em><strong>This is Your Life</strong></em></a>, by Michael Hyatt<br />
Hyatt is former Chairman and CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers and is now one of the foremost writers and speakers on leadership, especially as relates to building a &#8220;Platform&#8221; through blogging and social media, etc.  His podcast is connected into his website and blogsite that is topnotch.  His points are always thorough and practical.</p>
<p>2. <a href="http://www.daveramsey.com/entreleadership/podcast"><em><strong>EntreLeadership</strong></em></a>, by Dave Ramsey<br />
I&#8217;m relatively new to this podcast but it is great. Ramsey&#8217;s team brings well known leaders from various disciplines and fields for pointed strategic conversations. It is one of the top podcasts on iTunes in the business and leadership category.</p>
<p>3. <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/andy-stanley-leadership-podcast/id290055666?mt=2"><em><strong>Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast</strong></em></a><br />
Stanley is pastor of North Point Community Church and a great communicator and leader. Not just for church leaders. Click on this iTunes link for a description and some of the titles.</p>
<p><strong>TITLES YOU WOULD ADD?</strong> Leave a comment.</p>
<h6><strong>NEW TO PODCASTS?</strong> To download a podcast, you only need a computer with an Internet connection and podcast software (which you’ll need to install). <a href="http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/" target="_blank">Apple’s iTunes</a> is one such program that is popular for downloading and listening to podcasts. You can easily listen to podcasts on smartphones or other devices with mp3 players.</h6>
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		<title>The Church &#8211; Bad for Humanity?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 03:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our teaching series called &#8220;Tough Questions,&#8221; we looked at &#8220;The Church&#8217;s&#8221;  image problem among so many in our culture.  The question being raised by those understandably cynical about organized religion in general and Christianity in particular, could, I believe be put like this: Isn&#8217;t the Church really bad for humanity? I&#8217;ll put two quotes [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=lylemook.com&#038;blog=783052&#038;post=1795&#038;subd=lylemook&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1775" alt="toughquestion logo" src="http://lylemook.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/toughquestion-logo.jpg?w=300&#038;h=240" width="300" height="240" />In our teaching series called <a href="http://www.christchurchec.org/sermon-series/tough-questions"><strong>&#8220;Tough Questions,&#8221;</strong></a> we looked at &#8220;The Church&#8217;s&#8221;  image problem among so many in our culture.  The question being raised by those understandably cynical about organized religion in general and Christianity in particular, could, I believe be put like this:</p>
<h3 style="text-align:left;"><em>Isn&#8217;t the Church really bad for humanity?</em></h3>
<p>I&#8217;ll put two quotes in this post from <a href="http://www.christchurchec.org/sermon/2013/04/21">the sermon</a> that need some rumination to fully grasp. For example, I mentioned the recent book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-God-Argument-Religion-Humanism/dp/1620401908/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1366687502&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=the+God+argument"><em>The God Argument: The Case Against Religion and For Humanism</em></a>, by A.C. Grayling.  Part of the problem is that &#8220;humanism&#8221; has been hijacked by those with a false understanding both of what it means to be human, and the Biblical underpinnings of true humanity. One reviewer hit the nail on the head as to the weakness of the new atheists&#8217; argument:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Grayling is mistaken. The style of atheism rehearsed in these books has reached a dead end. It&#8217;s one thing to catalogue the manifest faults within this or that religious tradition, which the new atheists have ably done&#8230; over and over and over again.<b> It&#8217;s quite another to claim, </b></em><em>as these authors also invariably do, that godlessness is not only <b>true</b> but also (really) <b>good</b> for human beings. It quite obviously is not.</em></p>
<p><em><b>&#8220;If atheism is true, it is far from being good news</b>. Learning that we&#8217;re alone in the universe, that no one hears or answers our prayers, that humanity is entirely the product of random events, that we have no more intrinsic dignity than non-human and even non-animate clumps of matter, that we face certain annihilation in death, that our sufferings are ultimately pointless, that our lives and loves do not at all matter in a larger sense, that those who commit horrific evils and elude human punishment get away with their crimes scot free — all of this (and much more) is utterly tragic.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Honest atheists understand this. Philosopher Friedrich <b>Nietzsche</b> proclaimed the death of God, but he called it an &#8220;awe-inspiring catastrophe&#8221; for humanity, which now faced the monumental task of avoiding a descent into nihilism. /hopelessness. <b>Camus</b> likewise recognized that when the longing for a satisfying answer to the question of &#8220;why?&#8221; confronts the &#8220;unreasonable silence of the world,&#8221; the <b>goodness of human life</b> <strong>appears to</strong><b> dissolve and must be reconstructed from the ground up. </b></em></p>
<p><em><strong>Philip Larkin</strong>, the poet: speaks of a life with no solace or reassurance, confronting the horrifying prospect of a lonely plunge into infinite nothingness:</em></p>
<p><em>This is what we fear: no sight, no sound,</em><br />
<em> No touch or taste or smell,</em><br />
<em> nothing to think with,</em><br />
<em> Nothing to love or link with,</em><br />
<em> The anesthetic from which none come round.</em></p>
<p>-Daman Linker, <a href="http://theweek.com/article/index/241108/where-are-the-honest-atheists"><em>Where are the Honest Atheist?</em> The World</a></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>David Bently Hart</strong> rips the new atheism to shreds in his book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Atheist-Delusions-Christian-Revolution-Fashionable/dp/0300164297/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1366688387&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=atheist+delusions"><em>Atheist Delusions: The Christian Revolution and Its Fashionable Enemies</em></a>. Here is his point as relates to our question.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Christendom” was only the outward, sometimes majestic, but always defective form of the interaction between the gospel and (culture)… The more vital and essential victory of Christianity lay in the strange, impractical, altogether unworldly tenderness of the moral intuitions it succeeded in sowing in human consciences. (compared to the common inhumanity of many ancient civilizations.)</p>
<p>“IF, AS I HAVE ARGUED&#8230;THE “HUMAN” AS WE NOW UNDERSTAND IT, IS THE POSITIVE INVENTION OF CHRISTIANITY, MIGHT IT NOT BE THE CASE THAT A CULTURE THAT HAS BECOME TRULY <strong>POST-CHRISTIAN</strong> WILL  ALSO, ULTIMATELY, BECOME<b> POST-HUMAN’</b> !”</p></blockquote>
<h4>QUESTION: Can you see why the Good News of Christ brings a true Humanism? <em>Fully Human, Fully Alive -</em> restored to the image of THE human: the God-Man Jesus Christ!</h4>
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